Biofuels are Bullshit


It’s pretty simple, mankind is already straining our farmland to grow enough food to feed everyone. People are still starving, food costs continue to rise. Mankind is also extremely dependent on fuel. Other than maybe air and water, i can’t think of something humans consume more of than food and fuel. Filling cars with biofuels would basically group our two most demanded commodities onto one production source. Its preposterous.

Tastes better mixed

Tastes better mixed

So if we’re already using all the land to grow food, where the hell are we going to grow all this corn needed for biofuel? There are billions of cars constantly sucking energy, we’d have to grow more biofuel crops than food crops. The news is already blaming ethanol for some of the recent food price increases, and we’re only using about %5 in cars at best. As well, any farmer will tell you that corn is terrible for depleting the soil’s growing ability. Easy right, we’ll just triple our farmland and quadruple our dependency on fertilizers and chemicals- i suppose there’s a whole lot more rainforest still to be had!

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Why not algae? It can be used to make fuel. Greenhouse effect causes increased levels of algae in the oceans, so lets use the algae to create more greenhouse effect. . .Now there’s a sustainable cycle with gusto.

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Biofuels are a diversion. Governments are powerless in the face of oil companies, so they pitch an incredibly lame alternative. The public believes the government is actually working on a brave new solution and the oil companies are happy because they’re not stupid like the rest of us, they know biofuels pose no actual threat to their monopoly on energy.

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8 Responses to “Biofuels are Bullshit”

  1. remistevens Says:

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    exuvia
    jcarleth@yahoo.com
    Submitted on 2008/10/28 at 2:35pm

    PS. I agree with your argument.

    If I am not mistaken then oil was always a biofuel, biomatter which just hung around in a prehistoric swamp long enough to turn into petrol. We inherited this pot of black gold and now we are spending it like bats out of hell. The natural sequel is to grab the food or bio mass directly out of peoples and animals mouths and feed the maschinery. Maschines are top priority these days and they feel no pain when its over, they just stop.
    PS. I agree with your argument. If I am not mistaken then oil was always a biofuel, biomatter which just hung around in a prehistoric swamp long enough to turn into petrol. We inherited this pot of black gold and now we are spending it like bats out of hell. The natural sequel is to grab the food or bio mass directly out of peoples and animals mouths and feed the maschinery. Maschines are top priority these days and they feel no pain when its over, they just stop.

    remistevens
    Submitted on 2008/10/29 at 3:16pm

    shorten the posted part, Good idea, i’ll figure that one out. . .

    A thirst for oil so great we strive to make our own and speed up the natural process at great expense. I’m hoping someone discovers a cheap effective source of energy that can quickly replace oil, something individuals could do. Wouldn’t that change things, but man, the quitting cold turkey could lead to some pretty weird times politically.

    Productivity, Productivity, Productivity, what the hell are these people talking about. How is having a greater capacity to make things progress. Too many mammoth stupid machines churning out useless plastic garbage, not enough small intelligent machines creating quality goods to enrich and enable people.

    Yea, i love corn. but i couldnt afford it at $10 cob.
    shorten the posted part, Good idea, i’ll figure that one out. . . A thirst for oil so great we strive to make our own and speed up the natural process at great expense. I’m hoping someone discovers a cheap effective source of energy that can quickly replace oil, something individuals could do. Wouldn’t that change things, but man, the quitting cold turkey could lead to some pretty weird times politically. Productivity, Productivity, Productivity, what the hell are these people talking about. How is having a greater capacity to make things progress. Too many mammoth stupid machines churning out useless plastic garbage, not enough small intelligent machines creating quality goods to enrich and enable people. Yea, i love corn. but i couldnt afford it at $10 cob.

    remistevens
    Submitted on 2008/10/29 at 3:18pm

    so, how do i get back to your blog? have i been there? i thought clicking on your name seemed logical, but doesnt work.

    maybe its me, i feel like im computing with a pillowcase over my head ever since i switched to a mac.
    so, how do i get back to your blog? have i been there? i thought clicking on your name seemed logical, but doesnt work. maybe its me, i feel like im computing with a pillowcase over my head ever since i switched to a mac.

    exuvia
    jcarleth@yahoo.com
    Submitted on 2008/10/30 at 3:16am

    We need to go from the impossible world of todays ABUNDANCE mentality to the possible world of tomorrows just ENOUGH. Getting there might be mentally painful as we look for a different philosophy to live by; one not based on consumption. We are not done thinking and reinventing yet. I imagine it should look a lot different than what we live today. Shortage is likely to guide us on and waste should stop us in the track.

    Blog on wood
    Exuvia

    http://www.exuvia.wordpress.com

    We need to go from the impossible world of todays ABUNDANCE mentality to the possible world of tomorrows just ENOUGH. Getting there might be mentally painful as we look for a different philosophy to live by; one not based on consumption. We are not done thinking and reinventing yet. I imagine it should look a lot different than what we live today. Shortage is likely to guide us on and waste should stop us in the track. Blog on wood Exuvia http://www.exuvia.wordpress.com

    exuvia
    jcarleth@yahoo.com
    Submitted on 2008/10/30 at 3:35am

    Outer growth will have to be suspended and transcended and experienced as an inner personal growth. Something like a tantric business principle; no spending of the few resources we have left. A serious line of people looking for help with consumer withdrawal symptoms are likely to build up at health care institutions and sales of draw yourself out of the pain with chemistry are sure to sky rocket. Religion… where else shall people think go from here. Looks like heavy weather to me.
    Outer growth will have to be suspended and transcended and experienced as an inner personal growth. Something like a tantric business principle; no spending of the few resources we have left. A serious line of people looking for help with consumer withdrawal symptoms are likely to build up at health care institutions and sales of draw yourself out of the pain with chemistry are sure to sky rocket. Religion… where else shall people think go from here. Looks like heavy weather to me.

    remistevens
    bsotnikow@hotmail.com
    Submitted on 2008/12/13 at 5:29am

    great comments exuvia,

    sorry, im doing some re-structuring here and am reposting all the material that was once on this page- just to make it all link together better.

    For anybody surfing by, check out my dec2008 posts on biofuels, recycling and rich people.

    oh, and have a look at Exuvia’s blog on my blogroll links, . …

    later all, thanks for everyone’s patience we seem to still be expeerimenting some techwological differences.

  2. eksith Says:

    One word…
    “Hydrogen”

    Burning of any type of fuel is stupid. Ethanol won’t solve any pollution issues in the long run anyway as that too pollutes. And, as you pointed out, it takes away from food crops. Leave the food for food.

    You mention algae… Ironically they may be the best source of Hydrogen in the future as they’re cheap to grow, very robust and best of all, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to start producing. We can even start moving away from fossil fuels in the process as the current commercial Hydrogen production still relies on oil.

    I think there’s a real market for it.

    One thing America has in abundance is wide open areas. Even regions unsuited for farming (I.E. desert) can be used for algae production since all that’s needed is sunshine, nutrients and an enclosed vessel.

    Switching to Hydrogen fuel cells will solve a lot of problems and create new jobs. Goodness knows America needs to do something about the economy. A new industry like this couldn’t hurt.

    • jon Says:

      Go back and do your homework for the cost of such an endeavor. Compare it to bio-diesel and get to us with another armchair post.

      • remistevens Says:

        I would never purport to know more about this topic than what is available from the armchair. But Jon, i would love to hear some stats that compare the two!

        Personally, from my armchair (what exactly is an armchair anyways? My chair is made for asses), it looks to me like the world’s energy problems were solved 150 years ago when we started burning coal for electricity. Why grow more organic matter to burn when we have hundreds of years worth of coal supply – which is also just compressed organic matter.

      • eksith Says:

        Way to dig up a 3 year old comment, jon.

        I actually have quite an extensive volume of homework on the subject (more than when I made that comment) and yes I did work out the cost of this endeavor.

        And yes, it’s still a better alternative than bio-diesel.

        What’s changed since that comment is that Hydrogen Peroxide is becoming cheaper to use than just Hydrogen thanks to advances in fuel cell technology (read: cheaper and more efficient than non-existent “clean coal” or existent-yet-pointless “bio-diesel”).

        So yeah, back to my armchair…

      • remistevens Says:

        I’d like to read that article eksith, couldn’t find it by googling…

  3. remistevens Says:

    That’s a good word.

    An earlier more technologically primitive man grabbed for the richest sources of energy first. Giant dirty molecules begging to be broken down. Hydrogen? It may be fairly unstable, but its completely clean. If its safe to split atoms in a submarine, surely we can use hydrogen to power cars.

    Most of us don’t sit around like cavemen eating animal fat, well some of us do. . ..point is modern man shouldn’t still be using fire as our main energy source, its primitive.

    thanks for stopping in eksith, well stated.
    Its true there is a great economic opportunity in producing the first viable solution.

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