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		<title>By: remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1488</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jeff, really great comment thanks!

You&#039;re very right. Power is always going to corrupt, I&#039;ve noticed the very same things with my union. It all creates an environment where the best potential leaders are reluctant to run for positions. Who wants to be chief when everyone blames the chief? Its a thankless job if you&#039;re good, and it can be advantageous if you&#039;re crooked. In fighting is more common than fighting with management. Its mostly politics and games.

But you&#039;ve still got to take the union over the corporate. As much as your &quot;leaders&quot; may have done to steal from you, union leadership is more your ally than corporate leadership. They&#039;re going to want to keep good wages and benefits, things which benefit even the shortest term employee. The company&#039;s position is naturally to pay you as little as possible to keep you productive. 

There is too much danger in negotiating alone, even if your only accomplices are crooks. 10 years of a good job was probably better than &lt;a href=&quot;http://remistevens.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/dont-blame-people-blame-walmart-for-employee-death-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 years at Walmart.&lt;/a&gt;

More importantly, consider the structure of your organization. Somewhere the documentation about getting vested was filed, they may have &quot;forgot&quot; to tell you, but the terms of your contract would have been available if workers requested it. As well, if you&#039;re unhappy in a union, you can run for steward and do something about it. In a company the only way to move up is toe the line, there is no democracy. &lt;a href=&quot;http://remistevens.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/this-is-no-democracy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ll take a corrupt democracy over a dictatorship any day.&lt;/a&gt;
Although i must admit, &quot;fishy buisness&quot; with even the voting process at my union seems prevalent. If things are bad enough democracy is lost even in the union.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff, really great comment thanks!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very right. Power is always going to corrupt, I&#8217;ve noticed the very same things with my union. It all creates an environment where the best potential leaders are reluctant to run for positions. Who wants to be chief when everyone blames the chief? Its a thankless job if you&#8217;re good, and it can be advantageous if you&#8217;re crooked. In fighting is more common than fighting with management. Its mostly politics and games.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;ve still got to take the union over the corporate. As much as your &#8220;leaders&#8221; may have done to steal from you, union leadership is more your ally than corporate leadership. They&#8217;re going to want to keep good wages and benefits, things which benefit even the shortest term employee. The company&#8217;s position is naturally to pay you as little as possible to keep you productive. </p>
<p>There is too much danger in negotiating alone, even if your only accomplices are crooks. 10 years of a good job was probably better than <a href="http://remistevens.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/dont-blame-people-blame-walmart-for-employee-death-2/" rel="nofollow">10 years at Walmart.</a></p>
<p>More importantly, consider the structure of your organization. Somewhere the documentation about getting vested was filed, they may have &#8220;forgot&#8221; to tell you, but the terms of your contract would have been available if workers requested it. As well, if you&#8217;re unhappy in a union, you can run for steward and do something about it. In a company the only way to move up is toe the line, there is no democracy. <a href="http://remistevens.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/this-is-no-democracy/" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ll take a corrupt democracy over a dictatorship any day.</a><br />
Although i must admit, &#8220;fishy buisness&#8221; with even the voting process at my union seems prevalent. If things are bad enough democracy is lost even in the union.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ando</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1485</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was in a union for over 10 years.Unions are not perfect organizations by any means.I mean you still have a lot of nepotism.It kind of becomes a good ol boys network of its own.Kind of like a little government of its own.You have the union leadership that becomes the fat cats that are making sweetheart deals with the employers in order to get the contracts i.e. They will give in to the employer during negotiations of contracts in ways that may be detrimental to the average worker in order to keep their fat paychecks coming in in the form of union dues etc. Not to mention for the average union laborer there is a lot of politics on the job nepotism,etc that can even prevent you from getting jobs in the first place.In unions it comes down a lot of times that the rank and file member is pitted against the union leadership just as workers that work directly for corporations are pitted against the corporation as far as fighting for benefits working conditions etc..I mean it doesn&#039;t matter if you pay your union dues every month as well as the union takes money out of every one of your paychecks ( A substantial amount (supposedly for your retirement etc..)I might ad) and the union at least the one that I was in does not guarantee you a pension. For example The union that I was in was a contract labor union They had rules governing who would be eligible for a pension or Pension eligibility requirements.They don&#039;t sit you down and explain the rules to you when you get in the union.You&#039;re just glad to have landed this great job.Well anyway the way my union worked I found out years later was You had to work at least a 1000 hours a year to be vested each year.But I found out after working as a contract laborer for these guys for over 10 years that there was a catch.You had to have at least five consecutive years of being vested.So to make a very long story short.With the way years over lap and living in hotels all over the place going from one job to the next.The union was able to break up my work in such a way that I was never vested.Meaning that all of the money that they took from me and thousands of other hard working Americans.I mean real hard work I was a steel worker.I won&#039;t mention what union.All of that money is funneled into a slush fund that never gets distributed to the rank and file workers.The ones that actually earned it. By using tactics such as these. Among many other things of which I do not care to sit here and write about or am not privy to.This is just my observation from my little slice of this hell on earth. Wherever there is money involved people are going to find a way to work the system.It doesn&#039;t matter if its union, non union corporation, Mafia, Gang I think that the problem is not so much a union verses non union problem.It is an inherent human problem.It is a distribution of wealth problem.From what I can see There is a certain status quo that will not soon change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a union for over 10 years.Unions are not perfect organizations by any means.I mean you still have a lot of nepotism.It kind of becomes a good ol boys network of its own.Kind of like a little government of its own.You have the union leadership that becomes the fat cats that are making sweetheart deals with the employers in order to get the contracts i.e. They will give in to the employer during negotiations of contracts in ways that may be detrimental to the average worker in order to keep their fat paychecks coming in in the form of union dues etc. Not to mention for the average union laborer there is a lot of politics on the job nepotism,etc that can even prevent you from getting jobs in the first place.In unions it comes down a lot of times that the rank and file member is pitted against the union leadership just as workers that work directly for corporations are pitted against the corporation as far as fighting for benefits working conditions etc..I mean it doesn&#8217;t matter if you pay your union dues every month as well as the union takes money out of every one of your paychecks ( A substantial amount (supposedly for your retirement etc..)I might ad) and the union at least the one that I was in does not guarantee you a pension. For example The union that I was in was a contract labor union They had rules governing who would be eligible for a pension or Pension eligibility requirements.They don&#8217;t sit you down and explain the rules to you when you get in the union.You&#8217;re just glad to have landed this great job.Well anyway the way my union worked I found out years later was You had to work at least a 1000 hours a year to be vested each year.But I found out after working as a contract laborer for these guys for over 10 years that there was a catch.You had to have at least five consecutive years of being vested.So to make a very long story short.With the way years over lap and living in hotels all over the place going from one job to the next.The union was able to break up my work in such a way that I was never vested.Meaning that all of the money that they took from me and thousands of other hard working Americans.I mean real hard work I was a steel worker.I won&#8217;t mention what union.All of that money is funneled into a slush fund that never gets distributed to the rank and file workers.The ones that actually earned it. By using tactics such as these. Among many other things of which I do not care to sit here and write about or am not privy to.This is just my observation from my little slice of this hell on earth. Wherever there is money involved people are going to find a way to work the system.It doesn&#8217;t matter if its union, non union corporation, Mafia, Gang I think that the problem is not so much a union verses non union problem.It is an inherent human problem.It is a distribution of wealth problem.From what I can see There is a certain status quo that will not soon change.</p>
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		<title>By: remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1474</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own no cell phone, no car and buy clothing maybe once a year. Go figure, i&#039;m still alive and working.

Planning a post on the &#039;feeding our senses&#039; thing. Creeps me out how there seem to be fewer and fewer flavours available. I remember candy and drink flavours when i was a kid that don&#039;t seem to exist anymore. I know they&#039;re just chemicals, but producing 1 thing will aways be cheaper than 5 kinds. Its in corporate&#039;s best interest to ween us off diversity in our sense experiences. You won&#039;t suffer any loss if you honestly don&#039;t know what you&#039;re missing- you know, like starving children in Africa not missing caviar since they&#039;ve never tasted it.

I&#039;ll be eating cold turkey all next week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own no cell phone, no car and buy clothing maybe once a year. Go figure, i&#8217;m still alive and working.</p>
<p>Planning a post on the &#8216;feeding our senses&#8217; thing. Creeps me out how there seem to be fewer and fewer flavours available. I remember candy and drink flavours when i was a kid that don&#8217;t seem to exist anymore. I know they&#8217;re just chemicals, but producing 1 thing will aways be cheaper than 5 kinds. Its in corporate&#8217;s best interest to ween us off diversity in our sense experiences. You won&#8217;t suffer any loss if you honestly don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re missing- you know, like starving children in Africa not missing caviar since they&#8217;ve never tasted it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be eating cold turkey all next week.</p>
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		<title>By: exuvia</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[exuvia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We would be it, only...

In general they feed our senses and keep us from thinking about much more.

We eat from Corporate, they have us down. They are sweet, enticing, promising and supply.

Imagine a group of consumers gone cold turkey; a total threat to western values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would be it, only&#8230;</p>
<p>In general they feed our senses and keep us from thinking about much more.</p>
<p>We eat from Corporate, they have us down. They are sweet, enticing, promising and supply.</p>
<p>Imagine a group of consumers gone cold turkey; a total threat to western values.</p>
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		<title>By: remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1461</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine the power the common man could have if we actually used our ability as the one consumer. Corporate got their shit together, what&#039;s taking us so long. . . ..Instead they&#039;ve got us trampling each other for plastic shit to celebrate our holidays.

The thing with two cents is that its supposed to be yours. The regular voter hasn&#039;t been able to bring his actual opinion to the table since scheming politicos bonded together and created partisan politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the power the common man could have if we actually used our ability as the one consumer. Corporate got their shit together, what&#8217;s taking us so long. . . ..Instead they&#8217;ve got us trampling each other for plastic shit to celebrate our holidays.</p>
<p>The thing with two cents is that its supposed to be yours. The regular voter hasn&#8217;t been able to bring his actual opinion to the table since scheming politicos bonded together and created partisan politics.</p>
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		<title>By: exuvia</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[exuvia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The short cut in the game is called lobbying. Letting money flow to influence choice and decision making.

Makes a regular 2 cents voter look a real fool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The short cut in the game is called lobbying. Letting money flow to influence choice and decision making.</p>
<p>Makes a regular 2 cents voter look a real fool.</p>
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		<title>By: exuvia</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[exuvia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;only the masses are dumb enough to still consider themselves nationalists first.&quot;

Ain&#039;t that a bitch...

Consumers are one; one big world of consumers. Hail the Organizations, the leaders and founding fathers of our One World nation.

You are an Individual to yourself and a few people around you but not where it matters. 

Democracy as a game has been won by capital and it sure ain&#039;t the size of your paycheck. Money-bought-knowledge-to-make-money has bought you OUT.

Lets study the Grecian classics for solace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;only the masses are dumb enough to still consider themselves nationalists first.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that a bitch&#8230;</p>
<p>Consumers are one; one big world of consumers. Hail the Organizations, the leaders and founding fathers of our One World nation.</p>
<p>You are an Individual to yourself and a few people around you but not where it matters. </p>
<p>Democracy as a game has been won by capital and it sure ain&#8217;t the size of your paycheck. Money-bought-knowledge-to-make-money has bought you OUT.</p>
<p>Lets study the Grecian classics for solace.</p>
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		<title>By: remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1448</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your country is being torn apart because corporations prefer employing slaves in Asia to paying fair wages in the US. 

You don&#039;t need to be fearful. The US is not threatened by ANY foreign country. You waste trillions fighting pointless foreign wars instead of building your infrastructure. 

Your country is failing because too many people in your country don&#039;t understand the world and are shitting their pants that some malicious force is coming to kill them. They close their brains and wait for someone else to figure out the solution. Your government sends its forces out to destroy countries so that American companies can make billions rebuilding it and claiming the assets. How much of that money do you think you get? Remember corporations wised up and went global 20 years ago, only the masses are dumb enough to still consider themselves nationalists first.


Do you know what &quot;consistency&quot; means?
Union members have what they&#039;ve got because they fought for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your country is being torn apart because corporations prefer employing slaves in Asia to paying fair wages in the US. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to be fearful. The US is not threatened by ANY foreign country. You waste trillions fighting pointless foreign wars instead of building your infrastructure. </p>
<p>Your country is failing because too many people in your country don&#8217;t understand the world and are shitting their pants that some malicious force is coming to kill them. They close their brains and wait for someone else to figure out the solution. Your government sends its forces out to destroy countries so that American companies can make billions rebuilding it and claiming the assets. How much of that money do you think you get? Remember corporations wised up and went global 20 years ago, only the masses are dumb enough to still consider themselves nationalists first.</p>
<p>Do you know what &#8220;consistency&#8221; means?<br />
Union members have what they&#8217;ve got because they fought for it.</p>
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		<title>By: lipbat7845</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1447</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can you say unions are the be all, end all!  I see unions tearing apart this country!  The union is destroying the steel companies, the union causes road crews to stand around drinking coffee instead of working, the union keeps people too protected and comfortable in their jobs.  It&#039;s fear that makes humanity work!  Without fear people will not work harder.  

Fear is the basic foundation in the armed forces.  Without fear, our armies would be destroyed!!  Don&#039;t fall into the void!  Be afraid!  Fight for what is yours!  Don&#039;t just expect it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you say unions are the be all, end all!  I see unions tearing apart this country!  The union is destroying the steel companies, the union causes road crews to stand around drinking coffee instead of working, the union keeps people too protected and comfortable in their jobs.  It&#8217;s fear that makes humanity work!  Without fear people will not work harder.  </p>
<p>Fear is the basic foundation in the armed forces.  Without fear, our armies would be destroyed!!  Don&#8217;t fall into the void!  Be afraid!  Fight for what is yours!  Don&#8217;t just expect it!</p>
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		<title>By: remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2009/09/25/1267/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[remistevens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Common sense&#039; was a bad choice. Its been used in so many stupid ways it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Common is whatever they&#039;ve bombarded us with the most since thats what sticks in the general consciousness.

But the barriers are more social than institutional. If %100 of your staff wants a union and you can&#039;t get away with firing the lot- you&#039;re going to have a union. If you do fire everyone, but all your new hires are equally interested in unionizing, you can either close up shop or get with the program.

America was a good idea gone terribly wrong by way of a greedy elite; somebody call Karl Marx to make him feel better.

Governments are completely infected by corporate money, we can no longer rely on our governments to stand up for us. You&#039;ll have way more luck bettering your situation voting in a union than voting in your country. Unions are the last only hope for the working class and they are on the decline because &lt;strong&gt;most of the population is made up of morons. The rest are discussing African starvation over caviar and cocktails.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Common sense&#8217; was a bad choice. Its been used in so many stupid ways it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Common is whatever they&#8217;ve bombarded us with the most since thats what sticks in the general consciousness.</p>
<p>But the barriers are more social than institutional. If %100 of your staff wants a union and you can&#8217;t get away with firing the lot- you&#8217;re going to have a union. If you do fire everyone, but all your new hires are equally interested in unionizing, you can either close up shop or get with the program.</p>
<p>America was a good idea gone terribly wrong by way of a greedy elite; somebody call Karl Marx to make him feel better.</p>
<p>Governments are completely infected by corporate money, we can no longer rely on our governments to stand up for us. You&#8217;ll have way more luck bettering your situation voting in a union than voting in your country. Unions are the last only hope for the working class and they are on the decline because <strong>most of the population is made up of morons. The rest are discussing African starvation over caviar and cocktails.</strong></p>
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