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		<title>Comment on Making Planned Obsolescence Illegal by remistevens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 04:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Josh, thanks for commenting!

Believe me, i agreed with that concept for many years, but i just don&#039;t think the voting with your wallet thing is possible any more. For one, my wallet is pretty wimpy. My vote is pretty insignificant. But many people make a difference sure.

Ultimately the problem is a lack of producers and retailers. There&#039;s no choice anymore. You can buy the crappy version, or you can buy the really crappy version. If your only choices are bad, you will chose poorly.

I  like the idea that consumers could become experts, but this becomes harder and harder. People work longer hours, labels and such become more confusing and less informative. If you really wanted to be an informed consumer it would take all of your effort. To be safe in the marketplace we need to at some level trust some sort of oversight to make sure we aren&#039;t harmed or defrauded. I&#039;d love if what you suggest could happen, just don&#039;t think its possible. And really i think this is evident in the world. We&#039;re seeing less regulation and its equating to people consuming more poisons and being defrauded and receiving crappier products.

I also like the idea of fixing and maintenance. Definitely. But again it comes down to how many levels of expertise can the average consumer keep in their brains. Many things even need practice to keep it up. To get to the point where we are able to be wise shoppers and handy fixers i think we first need to free up some spare time. 

I think its all in effort again to blame the common man for the ills of society. When you purchase something you pick it up and swipe a card or some paper- that&#039;s about your only real connection to the product. You did not instruct someone on how to make it or where you wanted it distributed. You didn&#039;t hire people to create it, ship it, package it, sell it. You really had very very little to do with it and all the bad stuff happened long before you got there. 

We need people to be accountable, pure and simple. You did it, actually did it. You are the one responsible. Authority follows an easy hierarchy. Consumers didn&#039;t sign the document that ordered the pit dug, it was the CEO. Someone made the decision, always. We&#039;ve been led to believe corporations and retailers are completely inhuman and social as though we create them day by day through our actions- in the same way we create the blogosphere, or traffic, or cultural movements. But retail/manufacturing is completely different, its not a social construct. Its designed by managers. 

If you planned to sell a product that is designed to fail you are defrauding your customers unless it says on the box &quot;this is designed to fail prematurely&quot;. Surely your customers aren&#039;t aware of the planned demise, in fact, we&#039;re often misled entirely as to the quality and intention of a manufacturer. They write things like &#039;great&#039; and &#039;amazing&#039; on the package, doesn&#039;t that at least imply they gave it a good effort, tried to make it good? I&#039;d have trouble writing &#039;amazing&#039; on something and selling it to someone knowing i designed it to crap out ahead of schedule. Feels like fraud, and i think there should be legal consequences.

http://remistevens.com/2010/04/03/you-cant-vote-with-your-wallet/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh, thanks for commenting!</p>
<p>Believe me, i agreed with that concept for many years, but i just don&#8217;t think the voting with your wallet thing is possible any more. For one, my wallet is pretty wimpy. My vote is pretty insignificant. But many people make a difference sure.</p>
<p>Ultimately the problem is a lack of producers and retailers. There&#8217;s no choice anymore. You can buy the crappy version, or you can buy the really crappy version. If your only choices are bad, you will chose poorly.</p>
<p>I  like the idea that consumers could become experts, but this becomes harder and harder. People work longer hours, labels and such become more confusing and less informative. If you really wanted to be an informed consumer it would take all of your effort. To be safe in the marketplace we need to at some level trust some sort of oversight to make sure we aren&#8217;t harmed or defrauded. I&#8217;d love if what you suggest could happen, just don&#8217;t think its possible. And really i think this is evident in the world. We&#8217;re seeing less regulation and its equating to people consuming more poisons and being defrauded and receiving crappier products.</p>
<p>I also like the idea of fixing and maintenance. Definitely. But again it comes down to how many levels of expertise can the average consumer keep in their brains. Many things even need practice to keep it up. To get to the point where we are able to be wise shoppers and handy fixers i think we first need to free up some spare time. </p>
<p>I think its all in effort again to blame the common man for the ills of society. When you purchase something you pick it up and swipe a card or some paper- that&#8217;s about your only real connection to the product. You did not instruct someone on how to make it or where you wanted it distributed. You didn&#8217;t hire people to create it, ship it, package it, sell it. You really had very very little to do with it and all the bad stuff happened long before you got there. </p>
<p>We need people to be accountable, pure and simple. You did it, actually did it. You are the one responsible. Authority follows an easy hierarchy. Consumers didn&#8217;t sign the document that ordered the pit dug, it was the CEO. Someone made the decision, always. We&#8217;ve been led to believe corporations and retailers are completely inhuman and social as though we create them day by day through our actions- in the same way we create the blogosphere, or traffic, or cultural movements. But retail/manufacturing is completely different, its not a social construct. Its designed by managers. </p>
<p>If you planned to sell a product that is designed to fail you are defrauding your customers unless it says on the box &#8220;this is designed to fail prematurely&#8221;. Surely your customers aren&#8217;t aware of the planned demise, in fact, we&#8217;re often misled entirely as to the quality and intention of a manufacturer. They write things like &#8216;great&#8217; and &#8216;amazing&#8217; on the package, doesn&#8217;t that at least imply they gave it a good effort, tried to make it good? I&#8217;d have trouble writing &#8216;amazing&#8217; on something and selling it to someone knowing i designed it to crap out ahead of schedule. Feels like fraud, and i think there should be legal consequences.</p>
<p><a href="http://remistevens.com/2010/04/03/you-cant-vote-with-your-wallet/" rel="nofollow">http://remistevens.com/2010/04/03/you-cant-vote-with-your-wallet/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Planned Obsolescence Illegal by remistevens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 03:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmmm interesting yes, a critical aspect i maybe didn&#039;t cover. This is why comment and discussion is always appreciated! The push for circulation, it does seem necessary. A good analogy is running out of breath in a closed room. The easiest solution to a lack of oxygen is to breath faster. You can breath fresh life into a lost cause, but at some point it runs out in a finite system...

Even beyond the environmental concern though its terrible the labour wasted on PO. Ultimately working more hours won&#039;t save you from poverty, quite the opposite, it&#039;ll just keep you too busy and dependent. The amount of stuff you actually get to consume relates to how much we produce and how we distribute- not to how many hours you work.

Real world, how does this relate. I think its pretty easy really, drop the standard work schedule. Lets do 6 hour days or 4 a week or something. We create a system where we value our time above all else. Quality goods so we can spend less time making them and more time enjoying them. Less hours per person quickly employs a lot of people to make sure everyone can find an average income. Ideally we push it to 3 maybe 2 days a week as technology takes over for us. 

Hard times hundreds of years ago, people worked literally all day to stay alive, but all that necessary labour recedes with technology....Other history, WWII created a massive need for labour. When the war ended they changed the work day from 10 to 8 because there simply wasn&#039;t enough that needed to be done anymore.

The work week keeps increasing because shorter work hours would mean a return of entrepreneurs and free market- not really allowed any more....People would have the means to dedicate their own labour to their own endeavours.  

Thanks for commenting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm interesting yes, a critical aspect i maybe didn&#8217;t cover. This is why comment and discussion is always appreciated! The push for circulation, it does seem necessary. A good analogy is running out of breath in a closed room. The easiest solution to a lack of oxygen is to breath faster. You can breath fresh life into a lost cause, but at some point it runs out in a finite system&#8230;</p>
<p>Even beyond the environmental concern though its terrible the labour wasted on PO. Ultimately working more hours won&#8217;t save you from poverty, quite the opposite, it&#8217;ll just keep you too busy and dependent. The amount of stuff you actually get to consume relates to how much we produce and how we distribute- not to how many hours you work.</p>
<p>Real world, how does this relate. I think its pretty easy really, drop the standard work schedule. Lets do 6 hour days or 4 a week or something. We create a system where we value our time above all else. Quality goods so we can spend less time making them and more time enjoying them. Less hours per person quickly employs a lot of people to make sure everyone can find an average income. Ideally we push it to 3 maybe 2 days a week as technology takes over for us. </p>
<p>Hard times hundreds of years ago, people worked literally all day to stay alive, but all that necessary labour recedes with technology&#8230;.Other history, WWII created a massive need for labour. When the war ended they changed the work day from 10 to 8 because there simply wasn&#8217;t enough that needed to be done anymore.</p>
<p>The work week keeps increasing because shorter work hours would mean a return of entrepreneurs and free market- not really allowed any more&#8230;.People would have the means to dedicate their own labour to their own endeavours.  </p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Planned Obsolescence Illegal by Sonia</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My spanish class is learning about planned obsolescence and I was wondering what your take is on the argument that ending it would severely harm our economy because of less need to buy new products. I know that people would need to do less work to produce all the goods if people had to buy new things less often, and that could result in less jobs. We read the proposal &quot;Ending the depression through planned obsolescence&quot; by Bernard London, which is obviously a different case because we are not in a depression but the lack of need for as many products could predict a similar situation. I still agree that it should be illegal and is terrible for the environment, I just want to know what you think about the other side. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My spanish class is learning about planned obsolescence and I was wondering what your take is on the argument that ending it would severely harm our economy because of less need to buy new products. I know that people would need to do less work to produce all the goods if people had to buy new things less often, and that could result in less jobs. We read the proposal &#8220;Ending the depression through planned obsolescence&#8221; by Bernard London, which is obviously a different case because we are not in a depression but the lack of need for as many products could predict a similar situation. I still agree that it should be illegal and is terrible for the environment, I just want to know what you think about the other side. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kony 2012 Is A Deception by exuvia</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Making Planned Obsolescence Illegal by Josh</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The concept of planned obsolescence is one of the worst things I think we as a society has to deal with. When I really began to understand the concept I almost decided to change my education track (becoming an engineer) because I had lost so much faith in the human condition. I agree with the anger that is expressed in this article and the comments but I disagree with the general thought that we should try to make it illegal. 

In my opinion I think all of us individually are at fault for the trend of planned obsolescence. We buy things everyday that are junk and don&#039;t take the time to really think about that purchase and what is going to happen. I am at fault too, just as much as the next guy. Apple has a very bad reputation for making this obsolete far quicker than they need to be but look at how many people line up as soon as they have put two new features into your iphone. 

The real way that people are going to win in this fight is to A) Research everything they buy and be informed before they go to the store and support a company by buying anything from them. B) Stop buying any and everything that they don&#039;t need. C) Take care of the products that they want and need and learn enough about them that they can fix what there is a chance to fix themselves. If everyone did these three things no company could exist that didn&#039;t build an open and solid product. Also the companies business model would change because they couldn&#039;t rely on the constant re-buying of the same product. 

The power is really in each of our hands. First step is just getting the information out there and helping others to realize that this is going on. If you haven&#039;t already check out the youtube movie the &quot;Lightbulb Conspiracy&quot; It is really informative on the subject of planned obsolescence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of planned obsolescence is one of the worst things I think we as a society has to deal with. When I really began to understand the concept I almost decided to change my education track (becoming an engineer) because I had lost so much faith in the human condition. I agree with the anger that is expressed in this article and the comments but I disagree with the general thought that we should try to make it illegal. </p>
<p>In my opinion I think all of us individually are at fault for the trend of planned obsolescence. We buy things everyday that are junk and don&#8217;t take the time to really think about that purchase and what is going to happen. I am at fault too, just as much as the next guy. Apple has a very bad reputation for making this obsolete far quicker than they need to be but look at how many people line up as soon as they have put two new features into your iphone. </p>
<p>The real way that people are going to win in this fight is to A) Research everything they buy and be informed before they go to the store and support a company by buying anything from them. B) Stop buying any and everything that they don&#8217;t need. C) Take care of the products that they want and need and learn enough about them that they can fix what there is a chance to fix themselves. If everyone did these three things no company could exist that didn&#8217;t build an open and solid product. Also the companies business model would change because they couldn&#8217;t rely on the constant re-buying of the same product. </p>
<p>The power is really in each of our hands. First step is just getting the information out there and helping others to realize that this is going on. If you haven&#8217;t already check out the youtube movie the &#8220;Lightbulb Conspiracy&#8221; It is really informative on the subject of planned obsolescence.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Might know about actually learn, from any given list of circumstances, determines whether we become increasingly powerless or maybe more powerful.
All lasting business is built on friendship.]]></description>
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All lasting business is built on friendship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My first Rally/Protest by remistevens</title>
		<link>http://remistevens.com/2012/03/12/my-first-rallyprotest/#comment-24553</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, that was very much the sense i got from the seniors there....Where are the young people? We need to get them out of the mall next door. They are losing everything and have no idea how great this country was and can be.

I find there is a real disconnect within those &#039;party loyalists&#039;. The only goal seems to be winning. What the politicians say and do is irrelevant, what counts is that my team is winning. Like its as unimportant as picking your favourite sports team.

Of course there are the loyalists who turn many blind eyes to stay the course over moot social issues like who&#039;s allowed to get married. Someone is stealing your productivity, forcing you into pointless labour that destroys you community and environment. and now, now they don&#039;t even feel they need to be elected properly. ---PRIORITIES!

Revolutionists always need to respect that you start small and make it grow. Do the little here and now that you can, and then tackle the next hill.

Would love to hear about some of your protesting back in the day lumpy...

Thanks for the great comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, that was very much the sense i got from the seniors there&#8230;.Where are the young people? We need to get them out of the mall next door. They are losing everything and have no idea how great this country was and can be.</p>
<p>I find there is a real disconnect within those &#8216;party loyalists&#8217;. The only goal seems to be winning. What the politicians say and do is irrelevant, what counts is that my team is winning. Like its as unimportant as picking your favourite sports team.</p>
<p>Of course there are the loyalists who turn many blind eyes to stay the course over moot social issues like who&#8217;s allowed to get married. Someone is stealing your productivity, forcing you into pointless labour that destroys you community and environment. and now, now they don&#8217;t even feel they need to be elected properly. &#8212;PRIORITIES!</p>
<p>Revolutionists always need to respect that you start small and make it grow. Do the little here and now that you can, and then tackle the next hill.</p>
<p>Would love to hear about some of your protesting back in the day lumpy&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the great comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My first Rally/Protest by Steve (Lumpy) Donaldson</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t surprise me that there were a lot of seniors there. Seniors are the people who have been lied to the longest! We have seen the demise of this once great country first hand. We know what life used to be like here, not from books or movies, we lived it. We are afraid, not for us, we&#039;re getting closer to a time when we will no longer be here. We&#039;re worried about our children and our grandchildren and what kind of world we have brought them into. We remember Canada, &quot;the true North strong and free&quot; as opposed to Canada the American puppet theater and what it was to be Canadian and we want it back. I don&#039;t know how it&#039;s going to happen, how to get people to listen and react to the truth. The credit system lets a large part of the population have most of the material things they want to keep them happy and therefore quiet, they don&#039;t want to rock the boat. This is how the government gets away with saying they have the mandate of the people, provide them with enough distractions and they can get away with anything. 
 People don&#039;t want to hear that they are getting screwed by their government, especially the &quot;party loyalists&quot; who continue to vote for their party regardless of the outcome. I saw one comment last week on a post about the election fraud where a person said &quot;what about the Liberals who were stealing Conservative campaign signs off of our lawns last campaign&quot;. Well I don&#039;t agree with that action either but there&#039;s a hell of a big difference between removing campaign advertising and rigging an election. 
I remember when I lived up North and there was a fellow  who had been the mayor of North Bay for I believe 20 or 25 years. He once again won an election but was ousted when it was  shown to the public that on the last election day he had supporters picking up drunks off the street and out of bars, driving them to the polling station to vote for him and then giving them a ride back to the bar. In this case the drunks were offered a ride to the polling station and then dropped off in the middle of nowhere, the end result should be the same!
Like I said, I don&#039;t know what the answer is but the way I&#039;m going about change is to start small and hopefully grow. If some of us begin by setting the right examples I think we will grow from there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that there were a lot of seniors there. Seniors are the people who have been lied to the longest! We have seen the demise of this once great country first hand. We know what life used to be like here, not from books or movies, we lived it. We are afraid, not for us, we&#8217;re getting closer to a time when we will no longer be here. We&#8217;re worried about our children and our grandchildren and what kind of world we have brought them into. We remember Canada, &#8220;the true North strong and free&#8221; as opposed to Canada the American puppet theater and what it was to be Canadian and we want it back. I don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s going to happen, how to get people to listen and react to the truth. The credit system lets a large part of the population have most of the material things they want to keep them happy and therefore quiet, they don&#8217;t want to rock the boat. This is how the government gets away with saying they have the mandate of the people, provide them with enough distractions and they can get away with anything.<br />
 People don&#8217;t want to hear that they are getting screwed by their government, especially the &#8220;party loyalists&#8221; who continue to vote for their party regardless of the outcome. I saw one comment last week on a post about the election fraud where a person said &#8220;what about the Liberals who were stealing Conservative campaign signs off of our lawns last campaign&#8221;. Well I don&#8217;t agree with that action either but there&#8217;s a hell of a big difference between removing campaign advertising and rigging an election.<br />
I remember when I lived up North and there was a fellow  who had been the mayor of North Bay for I believe 20 or 25 years. He once again won an election but was ousted when it was  shown to the public that on the last election day he had supporters picking up drunks off the street and out of bars, driving them to the polling station to vote for him and then giving them a ride back to the bar. In this case the drunks were offered a ride to the polling station and then dropped off in the middle of nowhere, the end result should be the same!<br />
Like I said, I don&#8217;t know what the answer is but the way I&#8217;m going about change is to start small and hopefully grow. If some of us begin by setting the right examples I think we will grow from there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kony 2012 Is A Deception by remistevens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not mentioned but worth researching if you&#039;re still on board with this trickery:

The leader of Uganda has caused millions of deaths in Congo- he&#039;s the guy we would need to team up with to enter the region.

Kony only has a couple hundred soldiers left in his army.

Kony probably hasn&#039;t been in Uganda for years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not mentioned but worth researching if you&#8217;re still on board with this trickery:</p>
<p>The leader of Uganda has caused millions of deaths in Congo- he&#8217;s the guy we would need to team up with to enter the region.</p>
<p>Kony only has a couple hundred soldiers left in his army.</p>
<p>Kony probably hasn&#8217;t been in Uganda for years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protesters are not rioters! by Kony 2012 Is A Deception &#171; The Remi Stevens Bolg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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